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Advising

The information provided below is not a substitute for personal advisement, but is a first step in getting registered for classes for students that cannot attend an on-campus advisement session.

Students with questions after reading the material on this page are encouraged to email their questions to the Civil Engineering Department care of Ms. Rhonda Magill.

Students are encouraged to use the College of Engineering’s website as a resource for linking to the department’s information, where advisement information is kept up to date with current information. See http://coen.boisestate.edu/

 

What Mathematics course do I take?
What level English do I sign up for?
Now that I know what Mathematics and English courses to take, what else do I sign up for?
How many credits should I sign up for?
What is the most important thing I can do to be a successful engineering student?
Academic Advising

What Mathematics course do I take?

The first question is to determine the appropriate level of Mathematics course to register for. This is the most important factor, as, for example, Math 143 is a pre-requisite for CHEM 111, but you need both MATH 143 and MATH 144 in order to take ENGR 120, and MATH 170. You can determine which course to take by looking at the Math Placement web page here. If you do not have an ACT or SAT score, the COMPASS exam is available to make the placement decision.

COMPASS Examination

If you feel that the ACT or SAT exam score does not accurately reflect your ability in Math, or did not take recently take the ACT or SAT, then we recommend you take the COMPASS placement examination to determine the appropriate mathematics course. Your highest placement score is used (whether SAT, ACT or COMPASS). Boise State University has a testing center where the Math COMPASS exam can be taken for $10.00. To take the COMPASS placement exam, bring photo ID and cash to cover the testing fee. Call 208 426 2762 to obtain information about when the testing center is open. You are allowed to take the exam twice each semester or during the summer, if you desire. It is worthwhile reviewing some math before taking the exam!

The preparatory mathematics course sequence in engineering, beginning from the lowest, and moving up to the highest, is as follows: Math 15, Math 25, Math 108, Math 143, MATH 144, Math 170. MATH 143 and 144 may be taken the same term, or they may be taken in sequence. The Compass Exam results may suggest other math courses you are qualified to take, but you should restrict yourself to the ones on the list, taking the one that you qualify to take as a result of the Compass exam.

An excellent online mathematics program to learn math on your own, or to just review math during the summer, can be found at http://www.aleks.com/ If you work this online tutorial for an hour a day during the summer, you may find that you learn enough algebra to move your COMPASS scores up to the next level math course. This will save you a semester in college and also the tuition fees.

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What level English do I sign up for?

There are three English courses (ENGL 101, ENGL 102, ENGL 202) required for the Civil Engineering degree. Based upon your test (ACT or SAT) scores you may need to take courses before taking ENGL 101, or you may be able to skip courses. You can determine which course to take by looking at the following two web pages:

Placement for new students (AAE website)

Placement Exams (registrar website)

Now that I know what Mathematics and English courses to take, what else do I sign up for?

The following section is broken out by Math placement level.

If you place into Math 15 or Math 25
If you place into Math 108
If you place into Math 147
If you place into Math 170
If you place into Math 175

Math 15 or Math 25

  • Math 15 or Math 25 (3)
  • English (3)
  • UF 100 (3)
  • University 101 (3)
  • Total Credits: (12)

If you place into Math 108

  • Math 108 (4)
  • English (3)
  • UF 100 (3)
  • DLV or DLL or DLS course (3-4)
  • Total Credits: (13-14)

Note 1: Math 15 and Math 25 do not give college credit because they contain knowledge that students are expected to remember from high school. Math 108 is a 4-credit course. If you are enrolled in Math 15 or Math 25, you will need one more class to have a full-time load (which you may need for financial aid or for a scholarship). In this case, take a second 3-credit Area I or II class.

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Math 143

  • Math 143 (3)
  • Math 144 (2)
  • English (3)
  • UF 100 (3)
  • DLV or DLL or DLS course (3-4)
  • Total Credits: (14-15)

Math 144

  • Math 147 (5)
  • English (3)
  • CHEM 111 & CHEM 111L (4)
  • UF 100 (3)
  • DLV or DLS course (3)
  • Total Credits: (15)

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Math 170

  • Math 170 (4)
  • English (3)
  • Chem 111 & CHEM 111L (4)
  • ENGR 120 (3)
  • Optional: UF 100 (3)
  • Total Credits: 14 or 17.

Math 175

  • Math 175 (4)
  • English (3)
  • Chem 111 & CHEM 111L (4) [or, Phys 211 and PHYS 211L (5)]
  • ENGR 120 (3)
  • Optional: UF 100 (3)
  • Total Credits: 14 or 17

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How many credits should I sign up for?

If you are planning to work 10 to 20 hours/week, don’t take more than 13 to 15 credits!!! Remember, your progress in mathematics is important, and it is better to take fewer credits the first semester than to overload it and have to repeat classes. So keep it low, and work harder at the ones you have with your time.

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What is the most important thing I can do to be a successful engineering student?

Do math homework every night! Do not save it up for the weekend. This is the most important thing to keep in mind. If you do at least 2 hours of math homework a day, you will be a successful engineering student. Here is some advice from 15 different freshman students from fall 2005 who took ENGR 110, to you, an incoming student:

  • Spend time on your homework, learn what you’re doing!
  • Don’t give up 1/4 or 1/2 way through! Find a small group of people to bounce ideas off.
  • Don’t drop out!
  • Don’t bring your math homework on a date and have your girl help you study.
  • Don’t get behind in the homework, it’s hard to catch up but worth the effort if you do get behind.
  • Do 2 hours of homework a night (this student got an A in Math)
  • Do your homework as soon as possible after the class.
  • Do all the homework assigned and do the practice problems the teacher assigns
  • Do all your homework, and if you don’t understand something, ask someone immediately
  • Always finish your homework!
  • Practice
  • Do your homework and much much more math than you’d like.
  • All I can say is, you need to understand it, whether it takes tutoring or whatever, you need to understand
  • Go to all your classes and do your homework

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Academic Advising

All students are strongly encouraged to meet regularly and frequently with a Civil Engineering academic advisor. You can email your academic advisor directly, or to schedule an appointment or submit advising questions, Please contact:

Ms. Rhonda Magill
Department of Civil Engineering
Boise State University
1910 University Drive
Boise, ID 83725-2060
E-mail: rmagill@boisestate.edu
Phone: 208-426-3743

Please include your name, student ID number, catalog year, telephone number and email address when submitting questions.